What You See Is… A Lie? ~ Outside the Margins with Sue Brown

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I’m nearly fifty and a relative newbie in Internet terms. I’ve been online since 2007 when I discovered fandom. A friend set me up on LiveJournal and I had to pick a user name. My name was boring (a bit like Sue Brown – lol) but easy enough to remember. Avon09. Avon was the anti-hero in Blake’s 7, the sci-fi programme of my childhood. If you think Star Wars made in cardboard you’ve got the idea.

Initially I was thrilled by the opportunity to be someone else, to be hidden behind a user name. What I quickly discovered is that I’m hopeless at hiding ‘me’. I am a creature of ‘what you see is what you get’. I couldn’t be someone else if I tried – and I did. However I could control how much information I disseminated in public. For instance my kids were off-limits and to a certain extent they still are.

When I decided to write, I did contemplate a male identity for about thirty seconds, but I knew I wouldn’t be able to maintain it. I’m a bisexual woman, not male, not gay. It boils down to I want to write about fictional gay men, I don’t want to be one.

I’ve seen catfishing in action so many times now, both in fandom and M/M. I’m exhausted by the crying ‘coming out’ stories and the drama and division that ensues in the community. I’ve been supportive but I’ve never been the friend, the one sucked into their fictional world. It’s been easy to say “You’re okay with me.”

Not anymore. I’ve had enough. You’re hurting people with your lies. The people whose identity you appropriate, your friends, complete strangers willing to believe you. You take money and gifts under false pretences – it’s wrong. You suck people into a world of fake people and their drama – it’s wrong. You have talent enough to create a world then write a book, hell, write a television series, but leave other people alone. I’ll be honest, I see people with perfect lives or excessive drama in our community. I tend to avoid them. They make my senses itch.

I’m tired and battered with the drama, the plagiarism, and the catfishing. I want to write books, and the drama in my own life makes that difficult. If I lose friends over this post I don’t care. I’m tired of keeping beneath the parapet. I deserve better and so do my friends. My genre deserves to be fabulous and drama-free.

~Sue Brown


Title: Jordan & Rhys
Author: Sue Brown
Publisher: Dreamspinner Press
Publication Date: 11/25/2015
Cover Artist: Brooke Albrecht
Genre: BDSM, M/M Romance


Eight months after the assault in which his sub and lover was killed, Jordan Nicholls isn’t making much progress in his recovery. Marchant and Ed, Jordan’s friends from the BDSM club, stage an intervention.

They employ a carer to look after Jordan. Rhys may be a sub, but he’s forceful, making Jordan eat and exercise rather than live on coffee and cigarettes. Despite Jordan’s protests, Rhys slowly forces him back to life.

But Rhys wants to be Jordan’s sub, and despite being protective of Rhys, Jordan’s not sure he can ever return to the BDSM lifestyle. In order for their relationship to continue, they’ll need to find a compromise that meets both their needs.


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About Sue Brown

Sue Brown is owned by her dog and two children. When she isn’t following their orders, she can be found plotting at her laptop. In fact she hides so she can plot and has got expert at ignoring the orders.

Sue discovered M/M erotica at the time she woke up to find two men kissing on her favourite television series. The kissing was hot and tender and Sue wanted to write about this men. She may be late to the party, but she’s made up for it since, writing fan fiction until she was brave enough to venture out into the world of original fiction.

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Farewell Giveaway
I have a number of paperbacks, most of which are signed, to giveaway. Over the between now (11 Mar 2017) and 31 Mar 2017, every comment on the blog (this post and all other new posts), will be entered to win 1 of these paperbacks. There are also some misc swag items, so there will be a few packs of these to give away as well.

Thank you so much for your support over the last 4 years. Prism will be closing its doors on 1 April 2017. All content will remain available, but no new content will appear after 31 Mar 2017. As such all request forms have been turned off. Again Thank you,

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13 thoughts on “What You See Is… A Lie? ~ Outside the Margins with Sue Brown

      • I am making the time by stepping away from Facebook, where I seem to see and find out about all of the drama.

        I am not liking the community much these days. I never really felt much of a part of it, but these days the feeling is too strong for me to brush aside like I usually do. So I am taking a step back and will see if I feel any different in the new year.

        • The last thorny issue was too much for me too. I am reviewing LGBTQ books outside of the need for FB except to keep up with people I know and like. I mainly spend my time in a group where I trust the admins, and the people there. Social media could be such an amazing tool for good, but too often it is used to deceive and objectify. I want to read your books Sue, I want to write mine and I want to review all without the drama and drivel.

  1. Well said, Sue. I didn’t know Thorny so I can’t spake on the issue. I am also tired of all the drama in the m/m writing community. When I see it, I just keep my mouth shut because I might not put my response as eloquently as you did. It’s exhausting to see so many people play these high school games and hurt other people as they do it. I thought we were all adults here. I’m ashamed by some of the things I’ve seen and I wish people would leave the drama for their stories!

    <3 Love you and your books.

  2. I love you, babe. I am SO with you on this. I used to love to hop online in the morning and change out my avatar to a new pretty boy every day just to celebrate the beauty in our genre. I used to love to read what was happening in everyone’s life and cheer them on, share their new releases, and be a part of it all. Now, 5 years after being first published, I find every possible reason not to engage on FB. If I have a story to promo, you’ll see me around but it’s just become tiresome and old to read all the drama. What’s worse is, I have no desire to write MM books anymore. I haven’t had a new release since August and I had become accustomed to releasing a book every 6 weeks or so. The thing is, I have 14K on a new book and I haven’t even opened it for over a week. I have no desire to. The shit has sucked all the life out of me and the stories, which used to come one on top of another in my brain, are drying up. I’ve only recently picked up my Kindle again after months away from it and what do you think I’m reading? A YA series about a female CIA agent that is so funny and has me in absolute stitches that I am seriously contemplating changing genres entirely. And if I don’t ever have to write another sex scene as long as I live, it would be too soon.

  3. Well said Sue. So furious with Thorny/Missy that I will never buy HER books again, and the only financial loss I suffered was buying Splinters, which was actually a pretty good story. I did believe in the ‘characters’ that she created and looked forward to the double wedding…well more fool me. It’s the deceit and deception, the lies and the preying on people’s sympathy that I find so disgusting especially using characters who were disabled, have PTSD and she even went so far as to get one of them to commit suicide. The fact that she herself said ‘Gay boys have all the luck’ says it all I think…well they bloody well don’t, you have to make your own luck sometimes, and by honest means too. A jealous and spiteful woman who now expects us to feel sorry for her cos she has issues, doesn’t everyone??

    Laura Harner can also take note, it’ll be a cold day in Hell before I buy another of yours, of course that’s assuming you wrote it in the first place *coughs*, and as for ‘Josh Lanyon’, well I must be in the minority of people that don’t actually think that much of your writing so no loss there for me thank goodness.

  4. Catfishing does seem like it’s been especially prevalent this year. It’s not a new thing but it just seems like more people are taking advantage of it and there are more movies and stories involving this theme and warnings in general about it (or maybe it’s just me overthinking this is so).

    I didn’t visit Thorny’s blog but when it came to light I did want to know what that all was about. I saw her post apologizing and I wasn’t very impressed by it or the usage of certain words and thoughts expressed but it was kind of her to try to make amends after being “blackmailed”. But I didn’t know her and so I don’t think I should have an opinion on that matter. I didn’t know about Josh Lanyon until I read the comments in that post and I don’t care about what he did before I became a fan of his.

    Plagiarism seems to be exceptionally prevalent this year too, with the discovery that L.E./Laura Harner and Lynn Hagen both had works they plagiarized from other authors. It’s very understandable why all this can be so tiring. Let’s hope the new year will be a lot better and less dramatic.

  5. I was hurt by the Thorny thing. A sweet, gay, genderfluid, orphan sucked me in and made me fall in love with all his family. The suicide had me crying for days. The disabled veteran tugged every heartstring I have. Well, just call me the fool. It’s betrayal to the highest degree, and the apology? Non-existent.

    Finding out who Thorny really was devastated me because I had a friendship (supposedly) with both. Things like this make me cynical with the world. But I want to experience new things & people. I want to read and I want to write. I suspect my heart won’t change because of this experience though. I think it’s stuck wide open and wanting to trust and love.

    Thank you for this post. I’ve always admired you and loved your writing, and now you’ve just upped the ante. ❤️

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