Predictability of Crime Stories ~ Outside the Margins with Sue Brown

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I love the crime genre; books, films and TV shows. They’ve formed a huge part of my life for almost forty years. I’ve read and type of crime from cosy English mysteries to gritty New York cop shows. My favourite in the early days were John Creasey and Ian Fleming, Agatha Christie and Dorothy L. Sayers. Bearing in mind I started reading crime around late seventies, and the books were from the fifties and sixties, it shows how old the books were in my library. I watched the old British cop shows like Dixon of Dock Green and The Sweeney. Anyone remember them? I went through the Bill, Morse and Inspector Frost, Life on Mars, and then I transferred over to mainly American shows. I’m still watching shows like Criminal Minds and Blue Bloods.

Before I discovered the M/M genre I was a huge Patricia Cornwell fan because I love forensic-based books. I also read Val McDermid and Kathy Reichs. I’ve been out of mainstream crime fiction for a while, preferring to concentrate on the authors in my genre, such as John Inman, Marshall Thornton, Dorien Grey, Charlie Cochrane and Ethan Stone. However, I have been working my way through Lee Child’s books just to get a change of perspective.

I hope you see I read male and female authors. I don’t care which era the stories are set in or which continent. I just want to read or watch a good, tight-paced tale. I’m not alone apparently. Women are the majority of crime readers.

Something that has started to bug the living shit of me. Take The 100 Code, another edgy police procedural. It started with a beautiful, naked blonde girl. More than one naked blonde girl. I’m trying to remember another edgy police procedural that did the same thing.

Serial killers, Sue. Women die, Sue. You like crime. What are you bitching about?

Because they are so fecking predictable. PREDICTABLE. Always women victims, always naked. Once it was alluded to, now you see the naked body. Or rather naked women. Let the camera linger on their nipples and boobs.

And the hero is a (male) grumpy cop, in conflict with other cops.

Yes, there are female cops and I’ve watched most of them. I have mixed feelings about The Fall. There is the fantastic Gillian Anderson in charge, but the victims are women – again. Is it too much to have a serial killer that isn’t after just women?

There is a reason I’m so grumpy about this. I’m halfway through a police procedural where the victims are women. I fell into the same trap. I’m angry at myself for not thinking outside the box. Can I change my story now? I don’t know. But I’m going to have a damn good try.


~Sue Brown

About Sue Brown

Sue Brown is owned by her dog and two children. When she isn’t following their orders, she can be found plotting at her laptop. In fact she hides so she can plot and has got expert at ignoring the orders.

Sue discovered M/M erotica at the time she woke up to find two men kissing on her favourite television series. The kissing was hot and tender and Sue wanted to write about this men. She may be late to the party, but she’s made up for it since, writing fan fiction until she was brave enough to venture out into the world of original fiction.

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7 thoughts on “Predictability of Crime Stories ~ Outside the Margins with Sue Brown

  1. I hear you, Sue. And you’re right. Maybe the producers/writers are trying to hook in their network sponsers’ preferred audience? I’ve had favourite TV series cancelled because they didn’t pull in the demographic wanted by the advertisers.

    On the other hand, when it comes to writing procedurals, it’s possible that in Real Life female victims outnumber the male [though that’s a guess on y part as I don’t have the stats to back it up], while the number of female perpetrators are vastly outnumbered by the male.

    As and end-note, if you haven’t read any of Marjery Allingham’s books, give her a whirl. She’s a contemporary of Christie and Sayers.

  2. Omg Dixon of Dock Green! And Z-Cars! Softly Softly! And American shows like Dragnet. But no nipples at all in the 50s. I don’t read modern crime writers but I love the Golden Agers – Christie, Sayers, Allingham, Ngaio Marsh, Leslie Charteris, G K Chesterton, Dashiel Hammett – and the MM crowd. I agree that especially mainstream crime can be a bit predictable in its “female= victim” vibe. That’s why MM with its lovely lads in peril is such a nice change.

  3. WOW .. I agree .. what a blast from the past! I don’t read m/f anymore either. I read Child, Crais, Coben, Berenson, Bell, Lustbader, Box, Barry, Clancy, Hillerman, JL Burke, & all of my m/m authors. The closest I get to m/f is Suzanne Brockmann & her SEALS. I want stories with substance. Thanks for this post!

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